From: shannon@world.std.com (Terry C Shannon) Subject: Re: America the Beautiful, and Backward... Date: Fri, 26 May 1995 15:49:47 GMT In article , Nick Maas wrote: >In article pmazur@ritz.mordor.com (Peter Mazurczyk) writes: >>From: pmazur@ritz.mordor.com (Peter Mazurczyk) > > >Well, you bring up some interesting points that perhaps should get a couple of >additional spins. Why are kids in large cities (and elsewhere) using guns? Because there aren't enough metal detectors in schools? >Sorry, the gun control crowd propaganda doesn't hold, but neither does a lot >of pro-gun retort to the propaganda (because what it responds to is irellevant >anyway). The problem is with kids, the kids problems are parent problems. > Amen. >Kids who get guns are kids with serious problems. Bad Parenting, >irresponsible parenting -- kids who should never have been brought into this >world and probably wouldn't have if their own parents were'nt so damn stupid >that they didn't even think to reach for the rubbers. Andy Rooneys comments >about needing better parents (a couple years ago on 60 minutes) really ring >true. > >Guns, law abiding gun owners, and you and I are not responsible for kids using >guns, knives (we had a great one here in DC a couple of years ago when a >female ghetto savage of about 10 used a steak knife to murder a young male for >hurting her feelings -- I belive both the Times and Post covered them), or >other youth crime. Crime may be dropping but there are plenty of problems, >and they are at least partially attributable to bad or absentee parents. >Beyond the sociology claptrap. We have a lot of horseshit parents out there. Yes we do. But the liberals speak only of "mean-spiritedness(tm) towards children" or of the long-term costs associated with the short-term gains of reducing Federal largesse towards children. And the conservatives speak only of family values, the virtues of pro-lifism (which apparently ends when the kid is born) and other nebulosities. Guess it's not politically correct to get down to brass tacks and deal with the issue of the incompetent and incapable who dabble in parenthood. OldCrow